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The Truth About The Trinity

Scripture our source, love our bind, Gods spirit our guide

        Hello, Welcome to my Web-page dealing with Interesting doctrines that confound and confuse people about the church. This page is created in the pursuit of truth from God about God. (1 John 2:20,27). Truth is not for one person, one group but all who ask for it. (James 1:5; Matt 7:7; 2 Pet 1:19-21; 1 Tim 3:16). I am here to help you in any way that I can. I want to share what I have found in the word of God. I will not write this page for you in pretense, I will declare the truth as painful as it may be. I am concerned for you, Jesus loves you and died for you. God has not given us a spirit of fear or timidity but of POWER, and of LOVE and of a SOUND MIND, 2 Tim 1:7. Perfect love casts out all fear. Demons control with fear God leads with love, 1 John 4:18. If you are bound up and in a cult do not be afraid I am writing this in love because I want you to know the truth and the truth set you free. God is your freedom and no man or persons. God can bless you, talk to you, heal you and set you free. If you are afraid to read this page because of what some group has told you, you are bound manipulated in a deceptive and manipulative cult. These words are scaring you if that is true. You will want to get off this page if you are bound in a cult. If you want to make sure you are in the truth read on. If you are not afraid please feel welcomed to read on and be informed if nothing less than to know what most Christians believe. If you are afraid there is nothing to fear. I am your friend and I want you to learn about God with me. Let this article test your faith in the fire, Iron sharpens Iron. The bible tells us to study to show ourselves approved, "a worker rightly dividing" the word of God. This page is a challenge to all Jehovah’s Witnesses, United Pentecostals, Montanist, Modalist, Oneness and all other non-Trinitarian theologians to study and show what the word of God really says. This articles is meant to stir all of us to examine our beliefs and learn why and how to defend "The Truth" which is God and His Word Only and no other philosophy. Why do you believe what you believe? Read this and if you can prove me wrong using solely the bible you have won a convert, if not I will let the truth speak for itself. There is one thing you can not take from and that is my personal intimate relationship I have with Jesus through prayer and bible study in which I feel by the power of the spirit I do not live by feelings but by faith in Gods word alone. As Martin Luther and the other reformers died proclaiming that scripture alone is the fully inspired revelation of God to man. The word of God is our infallible, immutable, authoritative rule of faith, practice, teaching, and conduct, and is superior to conscious and reason, but not contrary to reason, when rightly interpreted by the Spirit of Truth. (Psa. 45:1; Ezek. 1:3; Matt. 24:35; Luke 24:27; Rom. 15:4; 1 Cor. 10:11; 1 Thess. 2:13; 2 Tim. 3:15-17; 2 Pet. 1:19-21). I know this however I do talk to God in prayer and that is something no religion can take away from me. You must seek to know the truth for yourself.

No one has the right to hinder your free will!!!

        NO person or people group has the right to tell you that you are not smart enough to determine truth for yourself otherwise God would not have given us minds to think with. God would have just created us as robots. Jehovah's Witnesses want you to avoid independent thinking, rational independent personal understanding of God is shunned outside of the controlling society because if you think for yourself you will find out that truth is outside the watchtower bible and tract society for all who want it in the word of God. God tells us to study to show ourselves approved and to be able to give a defense for our faith in season and out of season. We must be allowed to have our free will and be independent and rational in our choice and discernment of the facts. 

This is what Jehovah's Witnesses say about truth

...And just as in the first century there was only one true Christian organization so today Jehovah is using only one organization. (Ephesians 4:4,5; Matthew 24:45-47) Yet there are some who point out that the organization has had to make adjustments before, and so they argue: "This shows that we have to make up our own mind on what to believe." This is independent thinking. Why is it so dangerous? Such thinking is an evidence of pride. (End Quote -- from the Watchtower, 1/5/83, p. 27) 

  • How is such independent thinking manifested? A common way is by questioning the counsel that is provided by God's visible organization. (The WT 1/15/83, p. 22)
  • Beware of those who try to put forward their own contrary opinions. (WT 3/15/86, p. 17)
  • Do you refuse to listen to bitter criticism of Jehovah's organization? You should refuse! (WT 5/15/84, p. 17)

        Watchtower Bible people get on the Catholic Church for saying the lay people can not interpret the bible on their own and yet they do the very same thing. When the Word of God says no prophecy of scripture is for private interpretation but is for all to interpret and the word of God is for every Christian to be fully equipped by the power of the anointing of the spirit, (2 Pet 1:19-21; 2 Tim 3:16; 1 John 2:20,27). They try to say they are the only truth when they deny the truth of Gods word and only Gods word is true. I used to be a Jehovah's Witness I am know a Christian but I meet Jesus as my Personal Lord and Savior. He is my very best friend who sticks closer than a brother.

Why do we believe what we believe?

        Who is God? How do we know? What about this Trinity stuff? How does this relate to me? Does my Salvation rely depend on accurate biblical knowledge of God and this Trinity stuff? Were will my soul stand in eternity once I am judged by God? Why do we believe what we believe? How do we defend it? Must I defend the good faith I have? Should I obey God and share the hope I have in God? Who is right? God of course! There are many religions out there, what is the acid test to see who is right? The word of God the Holy Bible used by the Protestants and only the bible. The word of God alone is all we need as Christians to fully teach us everything for life faith and practice. Anything else adding or taking from scripture any allegorical teaching is heresy and part of the great apostasy the false prophets Jesus prophesied would come in the end times to take you away from the truth. Eternity is a long time to be wrong. Please read on (Rom 15:4; 1 Cor 10:11; 2 Tim 3:15-17; 2 Pet 1:19-21; Rev 22:19). Let us take scripture in context and look at the book, chapter, passage, verse in its historical context using proper hermeneutics and exegetics. Let us make a scholarly effort at sharing with one another in love. I may be wrong and you may be wrong so let us take a stab in the dark, pray and take out Gods word and see what God says about our doctrines. Ask God for guidance right now. Father God, Jehovah God please come give us wisdom and discernment help us to see your truth and know your truth for your truth shall set us free.

Foundations in Christianity 101

        As Christians we accept Jesus to be our Savior, Redeemer, soon coming King who is Lord of lords and King of Kings, Creator, Sacrificial lamb, Deliverer, Lord, Author and Finisher of our faith and Messiah. We believe that He died and rose again to redeem us from our sinful nature. (Mark 1:15; Act 15:16,17; Gal 4:5; Rom 1:2-4). We believe in Jehovah God who is Jesus Father who has begotten Jesus Christ as the first Born from the dead. (Gen 1:1-3,26; 3:27; 11:6-8; 18:1-3; Ex 3:1-16; Duet 6:4;Neh 9:6; 2 Chron 15:3; Is 9:6; 10:21; 40:3; 43:10-11; 44:24; 45:23; 46:8-11; 48:16,17; 54:5; Psa 110:1; 139:1-6; Zech 12:10; 13:6; 14:4-5,9; Micah 5:2). We believe in God The Holy Spirit who is a person whom proceeds from both the Father and The Son. He is the giver and sustainer of life. (Acts 5:3,4; Rom 8:26,27; John 16:13,8-11; 15:26).

Jesus called God! How do we deal with that?

        How can anyone deny the FACT that scripture calls Jesus God? How do we deal with, understand, and explain the fact that scriptures clearly denotes that Yahweh, Jesus and the Holy Spirit are all called God and yet some say Jesus isn't God but an archangel? Each member of the Godhead is distinct in there individual role of father, son or spirit. The Father Son and Holy Spirit are unique and separate in persons and in operation however they are fully united in deity. How do Christians explain this using one hundred percent scripture? Number one scripture calls them all three God this can not be denied unless you mistranslate or reconfigure the word of God. Is there a contradiction here? No, Scripture definitely calls Jesus God. read these following scriptures. (Isa 9:6; 43:10-13; Zech 12:10; Jer 23:5-6; Matt 28:19; John 1:1,18; 10:30-33,38; 14:6-9; 20:28; Acts 4:12; Rom 9:5; 10:9-13; 1 Cor 12:4-6; 2 Cor 13:14; Eph 4:4-6; Phil 2:9-10; 1 Tim 6:14-16; Tit 2:13; Heb 1:3,5,6,8,10; 13:8; 1 John 5:6-12; 2 John 1:9; Jude 1:4; Rev 1:7-8,17). The Father and The Holy Spirit are clearly called God. (Isa 10:22; Matt 6:9; 28:18-20; Mark 12:28; Acts 5:3,4; 2 Cor 3:17; 13:14). These issues I will deal with more thoroughly in the following sections. You may still disagree with me at this point. Please look at the above scriptures before you go on because I have some valid questions and doubts about beliefs stated in the contrary of the aforesaid opinion. So you must read the scriptures to see what they are saying and how I can believe what I believe. I challenge you to open yourself to personal examination in prayer before reading the word of God. I will endeavor to the best of my ability show my scriptural view of the Trinity of God to be completely scriptural and applicable today and a necessary understanding for ones SALVATION.

Jesus called Yahweh God! And Yahweh called Jesus God! Huh?

        Dealing with the Trinity issue; how do we deal with the scriptural fact that Jesus is called God (this can not be denied no matter how you pick the bone) in the Inspired Word of God along with the Holy Ghost and the Father who are also called God and yet while on earth he prayed to the Father and called Father God, His God? Number one we must look at the context of scripture in whole for the answer to this one. As The Father calls Jesus God and Lord, The Son follows suite in calling the Father, God for our benefit. Jesus humbled Himself and became like one of us, subservient to the Father. He showed us the way of righteousness. He did this so that we could see how to live and understand Jesus total submission to God to die for our sins so that we might have life. Hebrews 1:6,8,10/Psalms 45: 6-7/Psalms 102: 25-27; Jeremiah 23:5-6. It is not to hard to understand that when Jesus came to the earth that it was a willful demotion from His prior position. Jesus temporarily became a little lower than the angels. He laid aside His robes of deity and became as one of of us. John 17:5 makes it clear that His, Jesus ascension was not a promotion but rather a glorification or honoring His prior position with God The Father as God The Eternal Son. There is no doubt if you look at scripture in itself that Jesus is called God. That is a scriptural fact.

Only true perfection could die for the sins of the world!

        Jesus had to be perfect without any sin, spot or blemish to die for all sins to complete the atonement. Mans is sinful and could not atone for his own sins as animal sacrifice was not complete atonement but only a temporary rolling back of ones sins. We needed and eternally perfect sacrifice and only God could be that eternally perfect sacrifice. If an angel died for us it would have no more meaning than a leaf dying for us because and angel is just another created being with no redemptive qualities. Creation can not restore creation only God can. God can only fix that which is messed up creation can patch it up but then it will fall apart. God is the only one that could redeem the world. It is the only logical way. Angels are just like you and me so if Cain wanted to die for the sins of the world he would be redeemer but we know that is not logical. Imperfect can not bring healing, and restoration to anything. True healing only comes from God. So God had to be the one that came down to die for us. Imperfection could not atone for perfection and only God is perfect perfection so only God could die for us to save us but in that God can not die. Jesus went down into the pit and took the keys from satan to make a point. He is still in charge even when satan thinks he is winning.

Test your faith against the word of God!

        I suggest you use another bible translation other than just the "New World Translation," or some anti-Trinitarian biased bible, just to see if your doctrine holds up against other peoples beliefs in the context of their scriptures. Try it see what comes of these things. God loves you as a person as an individual do some thinking for yourself, do not be brain washed or controlled by any secret society, test all things and hold fast to that which is true, what lines up with clear biblical interpretation not Iesogesis. 1 Thes 5:21; 2 Pet 1:19-21; 1 John 4:1-6; 2:20,27; John 15:26; 16:13. How will you know if you are being deceived or not unless you check out for yourself. Do not trust man, man can lie God can't and He will answer your prayers if you ask Him, trust God, have faith in God. God is the only one that can save you in the end. (Num 23:19; Matt 10:28; Luke 11:9-13; Rom 1:17; 10:14,17; Tit 1:2; Heb 11:1-6).

The Plurality of God.

        God as Elohim and Yahweh is used in the plural sense many times in OT scripture, God who has eternally revealed Himself in His holy writ as the great I AM WHAT I AM, and US. (Gen 1:26; 3:22; 11:6-9; 18:1-3; Isa 6:8). God is described as one in name as Yahweh or Jehovah. (Duet 6:54; Matt 28:19; Ex 3:14; Mark 12:28; John 8:58,24; 10:30-33; 14:6-9), three in persons as the Father, Son and Holy Ghost (Matt 28:19; 2 Cor 13:14). The One True Living Triune God who has eternally revealed Himself as the great I AM, and as US. How does this line up with scripture? Well lets look at these following passages in context of book, chapter, paragraph, and verse. Go ahead and do the studying on your own using these following scriptures at this point I suggest you get an interlinear bible, a good lexicon, and do some contextual exegesis using all available hermeneutical tools. (Gen 1:26; 3:22; 11:6-9; 18:1-3; Ex 3:14/John 8:23,24,58; Duet 6:4; Isa 6:8; 9:6; 43:10-13; Jer 23:5-6; Zech 12:10/Rev 1:7-8,17; Matt 28:19; Mark 12:28; John 1:1-3,18; 10:30-33,38; 14:4-9; 20:28; Rom 9:5; 1 Cor 12:4-6; Eph 4:4-6; Tit 2:13; 2 John 1:9; Heb 1:6,8,10).God is unity in plurality for all eternity.

Understanding The Trinity

        God has revealed Himself eternally in three forms as the Creator of the universe, the Redeemer of mankind, and the revealer of his condition. The One True God has revealed Himself as embodying the principles of relationship and association as Father, Son and Holy Ghost referred to as or termed as the Trinity, the triune God, One Being of three persons by many. Though the words Trinity give a limited meaning however they are speaking of scriptural concept. i.e. church pew is not in the bible, Sunday school is not in the bible, theocratic ministry school is not in the bible, watchtower bible and tract society is not in the bible. Does that necessarily make it wrong? No! Yahweh is one God of one essence of His Diety/God Head who is made up of three distinct persons with distinct specific operations. So let us clarify the Trinity is united in deity or Godhead, however He is distinctly separate in operation, function, and personality. The Father is not The Son and The Son is not The Father and neither Son nor Father are The Spirit and Vice-Versa. They are separate as to persons united as to Godhead. One God United not divided not a pantheon or plurality of gods but One God. All three are God not three Gods but rather One God and not one person but Three. All three are One God and the One True God exist as three persons. God’s ways are not our ways. Read on I will prove this with scripture. God is the Eternal King. He is one in name (Duet 6:4; Matt 28:19; Mark 12:28; Ex 3:14; John 1:1-3,18; 8:58,24; 10:30-33; 14:6-9; Acts 4:12), three in persons (Gen 1:26; 3:22; 11:6-9; 18:1-3; Ex 3:14/John 8:23,24,58; Isa 6:8; 9:6; 43:10-13; Jer 23:5-6; Zech 12:10/Rev 1:7-8,17; Matt 28:19; Mark 12:28; John 10:30-33,38; 14:4-9; 20:28; Rom 9:5; 1 Cor 12:4-6; 2 Cor 13:14; Eph 4:4-6; Tit 2:13; 1 John 5:6-10; 2 John 1:9; Heb 1:6,8,10).

Eternal Trinity

        From all eternity He exists as One God in three persons of one substance, equal in power and glory. God throughout creation has revealed himself as one God in three persons or modes: i.e. Creator, Redeemer, and possessor. God has also been known as God in heaven, God in flesh, and God in spirit. All things are to The Father through The Son in, by, and of The Spirit. God thought it, God said it, God did it. As man is one man and Has a body, a soul and a spirit God is uniquely one God with three separate operations or persons in God. All three are in operation at the same time, Matt 3:16-17. The trinity is the Godhead having communion among the distinct persons of God. Read these following scriptures in context as see how it is possible for someone to disagree with you with this must scripture to back us up. (Deut 33:27; Rom 1:20; Psa 95:3; Gen 1:1-3,26; 3:27; 11:6-8; 18:1-3; Ex 3:1-16; Duet 6:4;Neh 9:6; 2 Chron 15:3; Is 9:6; 10:21; 40:3; 43:10-11; 44:24; 45:23; 46:8-11; 48:16,17; 54:5; Psa 110:1; 139:1-6; Zech 12:10; 13:6; 14:4-5,9; Micah 5:2; Jer 10:10; 23:6; Matt 1:21,23; 3:3,16-17; 6:9; 7:11; 13:49-42; 22:13; 28:18-20; Mark 1:3,14-15; 2:7; 9:43-48; 12:29,32; Luke 1:18-20; 47,76; 3:4,22; 8:39; 16:22-31;John 1:1-4,12,14,18,20,23,28,29,49; 2;19-23; 4:1-5,14; 5:17-32; 6:35,41,48,51; 8:12,17-18,24,28,58; 10:7,11,30-33,38; 12:41; 13:19; 14: 6-14,16,17; 15;26; 16:7-11; 17:1-5,11,15,21; 18:4-6;19:37; 20:25,28-31; Acts 1:8; 4:12; 5:3-4; 7:59; 13:2; 20;28; Rom 5:8;9:5; 10:9-14; 11:33-39;14:11; 1 Cor 2:8; 8:6; 12:4-6; 15:1-8; 2 Cor 3:17,18; 13:14; Eph 1:20; 2:18; 3:8; 4:4-6; Phil 2:6-11; Col 1:15-19; 2:2-9;1 Thess 4:16; 1 Tim 1:1; 3:16; 6:15; Titus 1:3; 2:13; 3:6; Heb 1:3,6,8,10,12;4:15; 5:6; 12:2,8; 13:3,8; 1 Peter 1:8; 2 Pet 1:1; 1 John 1:23; 2:11, 22-27; 4:15; 5:1,7-8,20-21; 2 John 9; Jude 4; Rev 1:7-8,11,17; 3:14; 4:8-11;5:6-14; 7:9; 17:14; 19:1).

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